true, the m4 sopmod is a very competent weapon, with a silencer and tritium det dot sight, with 5.56mm, but.. just look at every realistic first person shooter out there. m4. m4. m4. except for unreal tournament, quake, halflife, and a few other games, the m4 is present. i am sick of the sopmod. can't we have like XM8(i discussed this in another thread.. experimental weapons not allowed..) or AUG(since the aug para will be used, there won't be a real aug..) or xm29? personally id prefer a handgun over an m4. ( only fn57 or desert eagle) point is, m4 is too stereotype.

the aug para is a real aug as far as I am concerned

Its like saying the mp5k is not a real mp5...

lol to you it may be a real aug, but i have a real one, and 5.56 definitely beats 9mm(9mm doesnt do shit!! dont you people realize 9mm is crap?!!)

mkay so mp5, umps and pdws are all crap because they use 9mm, 10mm and .40 ammo (weight 7, 8 and 10 grams per bullet thus all having good stopping power while the 5.56 ammo weights 3,5-4 grams)

The groza uses 9mm SP6 ammo wich weights 17 grams and is said to have the most exellent penetration (it penetrates all known armor easily) and stopping power abilities. 9mm is a good calibre its just not meant for huge distances in WARS.
(tce is not a war game but cqb)

so what is your point?

hm... its just that alot of games have m4, and i hoped tc:e could be a little more creative.. sp6 is hellotta different. its assault rifle ammo lol not hte 9mm parabellum handgun ammo (just like the 8mm mauser, sounds small but is actually really big) ump is better if it has 45.acp. sorry im not tryin to be annoying or anything ps: k in the mp5 is kurz (short)

I know what K stands for as I'm german myself.
There is nothing wrong with the m4 really. And the 9 x39 mm ammo is still 9mm (standard is 9x19mm) and I know how it looks like compared to normal 9mm ammo wich also has bigger bullet than the 5.56 (thus heavier)

http://world.guns.ru/ammo/a_sp-10_9x19.jpg

you will agree that the size difference is laughable and only results due to the higher engergy needed to move the much heavier bullet. (5 times heavier than 5.56)

The groza is basically a new type of weapon that is completely modular. It fills both roles in combat, smg and assault rifle. In assault rifle configuration it uses 7.62 ammo as with the normal AK47. It is supplied with a conversion kit that makes it possible to changes the gun withing minutes to suit the next job.

The groza is basically only 565mm long and thus a very short weapon...shorter than most smgs actually

if you have a absolutely faboulus imagination, you can just imagine an assault rifle and a smg having sex